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  JWs Have a NEW TACTIC (at least to me)

  by Gretchen956 in

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  2. beliefs

  i have a new job now and take mass transit, the max train into town and then a short bus trip to work.

  in between i have about 3 to 6 blocks to traverse, depending on what time it is and which bus i'm catching.

  today i'm walking the last bit to my stop and watching the street for signs of the bus, and two women come walking up, at a good clip, and i can tell they are handing something out.

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  BDeserter -your comment about how to do maximum hours with minimum work is exactly how we used to do things!

  I was in a congregation with a lot of rural territory. As soon as you left the KH and were walking down the High Street to the car you would do your damndest to get a tract in someone's hand! Start the time!

  Then it would take approx 30 mins/45 mins to get to the car, and drive to the territory.

  Then the clever thing is to make sure that you do the same in reverse - ie if your lived a long way from the territory you call on one of your neighbours when you get home. End of time!

  We moved congregations from a town to a rural congregation, but didn't move house. We kept a short list of return visits from the town that we could use to start and end time.

  Of course we only started doing this once we got wise to how everyone else was reporting so many hours! Before that we were actually honest about what we reported!!!

  Crazy days!
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  Were You Ever Hopeful That A New Elder Would Make Things Different?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  did you believe that just maybe, if there was a new elder appointed in the hall, that things might be different?

  i remember hearing how happy people were when i first became an elder.

  they would say, "we need new blood!

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  My experience was that elders fall into two categories:

  Those who came into the religion late in life, after setting themselves a career, good income, home, flashy car etc. Then become a JW, elder, and stand on the platform telling everyone to lead "simple lives".

  The second category are the elders that were brought up as JWs, so don't usually have a professional qualification, therefore by necessity have to undertake menial jobs and are on a low income. The only time they get to a wear a suit and feel important is at the hall, the power goes to their heads so they suddenly start getting bossy and display egotistical tendencies.

  In my opinion the elder that is more likely to become dispondent and disheartened is the one that has had a "life" before becoming a JW, or who has gone against religious policy and obtained a qualification and career (very rare!).

  In my experience it isn't often that you will find a JW raised elder with no professional qualifications/ low income job actually leave the religion.

  I have no intention of upsetting anyone here - these are just my observations. And of course there will always be exceptions to the rule (which no doubt someone will tell me!).

  Enjoying freedom
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  They have even taken away the tooth fairy

  by jambon1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have just ben told by my jw wife that my daughter will not be able to get a penny for her very 1st wobbly tooth, presumably because the belief in fairys may be damaging to her.

  on the other hand, it is ok for 100 adults to discuss in front of my wee 5 year old, matters relating to oral sex in a sunday morning wt study.

  absolute bastards.

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  I was brought up as a JW. My dad was an elder and as a family we always tried to live up to (or should I say down to??) the JW standards.

  We never did christmas, birthdays, halloween, bonfire night, tooth fairy, easter, valentines day, mothers day, fathers day.

  Although I have to say my parents were excellent at making up for the loss of those holidays!

  But now all my family are out and we all enjoy celebrating the different holidays with the new generation of children in the family who are enjoying their childhood in a JW free world!

  And by the way the going rate for a tooth in our house is 50pence.
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  Jehovah's witnesses

  by tonerlungs in

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  2. friends

  hi everyone.. i am here to look for others who are disgusted by the watchtower pushers like i used to be.

  this cult makes me sick.

  my whole family is in this cult and it is ruining my life..

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  Welcome!

  You will find that we all have a similar story to tell and know exactly where you are coming from!
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  Don't miss the October 14 meeting.

  by Hiddenwindow in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here is an idea.

  i am proposing that you join me in doing the following: on sunday, october 14, 2007, i will attend that days meeting at my local kingdom hall and take the opportunity to secretly leave there the book crisis of conscience, by raymond franz.

  i will just place it where it could be found; i will maybe leave it on a seat or under it.

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  Great idea except...

  Tell me the last time a JW went into a public library and took out a non-fiction book????
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  How long does it take to "catch up" from the WTBTS stunting your growth?

  by megsmomma in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  following my last thread about how being a jw stunts your mental growth, .

  i was thinking f how many people here that have recently come out of the haze...and seem to be "caught up" on their mental abilities rather quickly.

  does your mind catch up to your age as soon as the "flip switches"....or does it take time living in the "real world" for a while that does it?.

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  I was brought up in the religion from the agoe of 4 and left when I was 24/25 years old.

  I have always been a strong minded (some say obstinate!!) person, so when I left I just walked away from it with no qualms. I have never been DFd (even though my BIL is the PO!).

  Since then I have been building up a career/qualifications that I should have done when I was in my late teens.

  I think the most difficult thing (for someone in my situation) is building up a set of real friends - obviously I didn't keep in touch with school friends because they were "worldly associates".

  Fortunately one of my very close friends who was also a JW was DFd a few years ago as well, so we have got that. And I have some excellent work colleagues that I would class as very good friends.
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  SURVEY: Who Believes In "God"?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  and by that i mean the supreme being or jehovah or jesus or buddah or whatever you might consider to be "god".

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  I would rather believe that there isn't a god.

  Because if god does exist then he/she/it is criminally negligent in failing to act to prevent disasters, disease and death which he/she/it apparently has the power to prevent.

  And personally I wouldn't want to know such a nasty individual anyway.
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  How long will Watchtower last??

  by chuckyy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  how long do you estimate that the watchtower org.

  until the next failed prophecy?, or will it go on until armageddon ( only kidding)???.

  chukky.

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  Honest query to 5th Generation:

  What is so appealing about the message to (a) refuse blood even if you die and (b) shun those family members who no longer think the message is so appealing?

  I have no problem with individuals having their own set of beliefs and principles - fair enough.

  I do however have a problem when those beliefs and principles result in unnecessary death and tragically divided families who no longer speak to each other.

  Just my thoughts!
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  Is There Something You'd Like To Tell A Witness "Lurker" Right Now?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we know there are a lot of "lurkers" here.

  they might not have posted yet but they do check this site out.

  would you like to express anything to them to help them in any way??

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  One thing I would like to say.......

  when you find yourself at the meeting, convention or out in the ministry and you are DOUBTING the real truth about what you are doing DO NOT DISMISS YOUR DOUBTS.

  Take them seriously.

  Do not be afraid of speaking your mind and standing your ground.

  Do not be afraid of leaving.

  A whole new life awaits you outside of the JW religion with infinite possibilities.

  I left 7 years ago. Was in a JW for 20 years. I do not and never have regretted leaving.

  Just my thoughts.

  Enjoying freedom
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  Bethel Tour Canceled Due to Lack of Interest?

  by snowbird in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  just left my sister who is definitely still in.

  she was scheduled to go on a bethel tour this summer, but she said it was canceled.

  she stated that apparently not enough interest was shown.. anyone else hear of something like this?.

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  Enjoying freedom

  You may be right - Apathy may be what kills it off in the end!